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11:03 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Hello. Welcome to the 09:00 Plenary at RIPE 64. My name is Susannah and I work at the RIPE NCC. I will be monitoring chat during this session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out for you. Please make your questions as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of his/her presentation. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made available
11:03 < Susannah_RIPENCC> the public on https://ripe64.ripe.net/
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11:04 < Susannah_RIPENCC> First up is Ivan Pepelnjak, NIL Data Communications talking about Cloud Networking - From Theory to Practice
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11:21 < Susannah_RIPENCC> are there questions for Ivan?
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11:24 < Amanda_RIPENCC> Is the volume loud enough on the webstream?
11:25 < vdv-ripe> yes
11:25 < tom_ripencc> sounds good up here
11:25 < ripe271> yeah
11:27 < Susannah_RIPENCC> And Ivan is up again with "Data Centre Fabrics - What Really Matters"
11:29 < rvs> webcast is good
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11:31 < mem> What is the IRC server, if I want to connect native and not via web page?
11:31 < vdv-ripe> irc.ripe.net
11:32 < mem> could have tested that, thanks vdv-ripe
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11:35 < mem> vdv-ripe: Now I'm native, thanks
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11:38 < ripe475> Hi can we get the whole presentation into the broadcast?
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11:39 < Susannah_RIPENCC> ripe475, you can see the slides online at: https://ripe64.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/plenary/
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11:40 < Susannah_RIPENCC> are there any questions for Ivan
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11:40 < ripe475> thank for the link
11:40 < Susannah_RIPENCC> :)
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11:40 < ripe760> how do you implement QoS for different classes of traffic in such CLOS networks ?
11:40 < Susannah_RIPENCC> ripe 760 can I have your name?
11:41 < ripe760> Sunny
11:41 < Susannah_RIPENCC> ok
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11:45 < Susannah_RIPENCC> :)
11:46 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Next we have a panel session on starting a NOG
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11:48 < Susannah_RIPENCC> you can see the slides accompanying this panel session online at: https://ripe64.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/plenary/
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11:50 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Osama is talking about how the MENOG was set up
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11:58 < Susannah_RIPENCC> And that was the overview from SWINOG
11:58 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Andrei Robachevsky is now telling us about ENOG
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12:04 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Keith Mitchell is giving an overview of UKNOG
12:04 < Susannah_RIPENCC> sorry, UKNOf
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12:09 < Susannah_RIPENCC> We're discussing the challenges of starting a NOG now
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12:21 < ripe475> Susannah I think it would be good to mention about EURONOG
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12:22 < Amanda_RIPENCC> Susannah's just rebooting her laptop, so she'll respond to your comment @ripe475 in a moment
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12:25 < blangstrup-DKNOG> DKNOG is also only a community thing ... not pushed by certain companies or IXPs.
12:25 < Amanda_RIPENCC> @Susannah_RIPENCC, @ripe475 had a comment: "I think it would be good to mention about EURONOG"
12:25 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Blangstrup - should I read that out?
12:26 < Susannah_RIPENCC> RIPE475 could I have your name please?
12:26 < ripe475> Bart
12:26 < Susannah_RIPENCC> thanks
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12:27 < blangstrup-DKNOG> Susannah: you may do that if you like :)
12:27 < Susannah_RIPENCC> can I have your name blangstrup?
12:28 < blangstrup-DKNOG> Benjamin Blangstrup from DKNOG
12:28 < ripe475> Ivan_Pepelnjak could say probably about EURONOG, dont know if he can
12:28 < Susannah_RIPENCC> ok, I will ask :)
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12:29 < lochii> I'm not sure what euronog is, it sounds commercial
12:29 < lochii> it was after the plnog meeting wasn't it?
12:29 < lochii> (which is commercial, isn't it?)
12:30 < blangstrup-DKNOG> they have the same company organising them
12:30 < blangstrup-DKNOG> so... I suppose
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12:32 < lochii> but plnog charges an entry fee AND has sponsors
12:32 < blangstrup-DKNOG> Susannah: a comment on working with RIPE NCC: "DKNOG has a good relationship with RIPE NCC. We have had speakers from RIPE NCC at both DKNOG meetings that we have had so far."
12:33 < lochii> Susannah_RIPENCC: can you mention that PLNOG is not-free?
12:33 < lochii> I think its important to let people know this
12:33 < Susannah_RIPENCC> I think they have closed the microphones for comments
12:33 < blangstrup-DKNOG> ok :)
12:34 < ripe475> Susannah - no idea about commercial.. sorry
12:34 < lochii> swinog charges as well
12:34 < lochii> https://register.swinog.ch/
12:35 < blangstrup-DKNOG> dknog charges as well
12:35 < lochii> ah
12:35 < lochii> perhaps this isn't a valid point then
12:35 < blangstrup-DKNOG> but is also backed by sponsors
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12:36 < blangstrup-DKNOG> I agree with the current speaker
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12:37 < blangstrup-DKNOG> one of the things people use dknog for is mingling and making contacts. This can be useful later when troubleshooting between networks in dk.
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12:38 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Sorry all, the session has ended
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12:38 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Thanks for your comments!
12:38 < blangstrup-DKNOG> so sad that I can't be there :)
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12:38 < keith-1280> hmm, maybe we sh9uld have a NOG BoF at the next RPE meeting ?
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12:40 < Susannah_RIPENCC> Keith - feel free to send the suggestion to the PC
12:40 < Susannah_RIPENCC> see you all at 11:00 for the next Plenary session
12:40 < blangstrup-DKNOG> keith: yea