14:02 < Robert_NCC> Hello. Welcome to the Routing-WG session on Wednesday, at 14:00 CEST. My name is Robert from the RIPE NCC. I will be monitoring chat during this session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out for you. Please make your questions as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of his/her presentation. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made availa
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14:03 < Kralian_dk-denet> sound arrived o/
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14:04 < BSS27-RIPE> no stone on web
14:04 < BSS27-RIPE> steno
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14:05 < Kralian_dk-denet> stenography not active?
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14:05 < Robert_NCC> working on it
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14:10 < Kralian_dk-denet> looking at the side of routing tables, CIDR is the worst idea that was ever had ? ;-)
14:10 < Kralian_dk-denet> *size
14:10 < BSS27-RIPE> ;-)
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14:13 < Amanda_RIPENCC> Sorry about the steno blip guys. Should be working now.
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14:13 < masterF00> it does, thanks
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14:14 < BSS27-RIPE> works
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14:19 < lochii> this is excellent work
14:19 < RobertPCH> The transcript on the webpage keeps saying "Event is not active"
14:19 < Robert_NCC> reloading the page solves it
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14:20 < shane> Geoff did a presentation a few years ago which said the problem is update rates.
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14:20 < shane> I wonder if he'll mention that here?
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14:28 < masterF00> i think the slides suggest some words on udpate rates
14:28 < MacRohard> there ya go
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14:31 < boggits> Q for Geoff - What about the update rates of prefixes that have more specifics vrs prefixes that are "whole"
14:31 < Robert_NCC> Geoff has asked for questions.
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14:31 < Robert_NCC> your name please?
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14:31 < boggits> James Blessing, Limelight
14:32 < Robert_NCC> ah, hi! :)
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14:32 < boggits> Q2 for Geoff - your IPv6 numbers stopped below 30k when we are expecting to hit N per ASN where N is greater than 1, when do you see that happening
14:34 < Robert_NCC> thank you, will relay these
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14:38 < boggits> thx Robert_NCC
14:39 < Robert_NCC> sure thing
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14:39 < Luke_v6> HE HE..randy :)
14:40 < Robert_NCC> The presentation has ended.
14:40 < ioc32> here's the URL btw
14:40 < ioc32> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~wmuehlba/jsac-10.pdf
14:40 < lochii> thanks
14:40 < ioc32> you're welcome
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14:41 < Robert_NCC> Randy Bush has begun the presentation "Route Flap Damping Considered Usable".
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14:51 < Robert_NCC> Randy has asked for questions.
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14:59 < Robert_NCC> The presentation has ended.
14:59 < Robert_NCC> Alexander Asimov has begun the presentation "BGP Route Stability".
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15:02 < furry> aren't bgp routing loops are usually caused by routers misconfigurations? ;)
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15:02 < lochii> I don't understand what this presentation is about
15:02 < furry> s/are//g
15:03 < lochii> is he now talking about ICMP?
15:03 < furry> yes looks like that
15:06 < lochii> but these loops are normal, accepted behaviours
15:06 < lochii> if you involve default routing
15:06 < furry> i'm confused..
15:06 < lochii> and this just occurs from doing path selection again
15:06 < lochii> what he is suggesting is doing TE before pulling a prefix, to mitigate this
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15:08 < lochii> sounds like a problem for GSHUT
15:08 < lochii> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-03
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15:09 < lochii> (assuming he is dealing with the INTENDED outage problem space)
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15:14 < matjaz> Cogent rules!
15:14 < furry> music pause ;) lovely ;)
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15:19 < Robert_NCC> Alexander has asked for questions.
15:20 < Robert_NCC> The presentation has ended.
15:21 < Robert_NCC> This session has now ended.
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